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 Naslov: Nibiru - Planet križanja
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Spoznaja da planet kojeg sumerski tekstovi nazivaju Nibiru ("Planet križanja") nije niti Mars niti Jupiter, kako su se učenjaci prepirali, već neki drugi planet koji prolazi između njih svakih 3600 godina bio je povod naslovu moje prve knjige Dvanaesti planet: koji je "dvanaesti član" Sunčevog sustava (iako je tehnički, kao planet, tek deseti).

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12th Planet Discovered!



The International Astronomical Union has determined the definition of "PLANET" and therefore, has acknowledged that the solar system has 12 planets.


Nibiru - Questioning the Theory



Okay, so I've been hearing about this new "end of the world" talk for a while now. Apparently some ancient civilization has recorded the existence of a previously unknown large body / planet called Nibiru which inhabits the solar system. It has been predicted that it will enter the inner solar system in the next few years where it is expected to wreak havoc on Earth and destroy 90% of the human population.

That's the gist of it anyway; there's plenty of other videos which cover all the details but lets just keep it simple. In this video I just want to investigate the logical feasibility of the scenario put forward by the Nibiru theorists.

The question which bugs a lot of people is why we can't see Nibiru already. The answer which the theorists give is that Nibiru can only be seen from the south pole since it is directly in-line with Earth's axis.

Well the problem with that answer is that an astronomical object which can be seen from the south pole can in fact be seen from any point on the southern hemisphere. It is possible to do a quick calculation to work out the elevation of Nibiru above the horizon for a given position on Earth's surface. The distance to Nibiru has been taken to be one astronomical unit but it can be seen that the angle theta vanishes for much smaller distances as well. The elevation is then just the angle phi, which turns out to be the latitude angle of the position in question.

Taking Sydney, Australia as an example; this would mean that Nibiru would be visible at an anngle of 34 degrees above the horizon. Even if it isn't close enough to be visible to the naked eye yet, surely one of the many thousands of amateur astronomers would have spotted it by now?

The next problem with the theory comes from the long descriptions of exactly HOW Nibiru is going to bring an end to the world as we know it. Some people say Nibiru is a dwarf star, and the extra heat from it is accelerating global warming. Well if that's the case then it should be close enough and emitting plenty of visible light to be seen clearly. This applies even to cold dwarf stars that emit mainly infra-red radiation.

The other effects mentioned come from the gravitational attraction between Earth and Nibiru, which are said to take the form of earthquakes and there is even the possibility that Earth may stop rotating. However, it is impossible for gravity to cause either of these effects because it is a body force. This simply means that it acts on all points within an object with the same strength. In order to stop rotating, the Earth needs to lose its angular momentum which can only be achieved by a contact force. In other words, Nibiru would actually have to collide with Earth to do this.

Gravity ceases to act as a body force only in extreme conditions such as on Jupiter's moon Io. Here the side of the moon closest to Jupiter feels a stronger gravitational attraction than the opposite side, causing stress to build up which results in the volcanic activity seen on the surface. So yes, Nibiru could cause earthquakes if it was right next door to us, but last time I checked it wasn't there.

Finally, my last point is a less technical aspect. The predicted period of Nibiru's orbit is said to be 3600 years. This means the last time it wrecked havoc was around 1600BC. There were plenty of civilizations going on around that time - not the least of which being the Ancient Egyptians - who would have recorded any unusual occurrences. Why didn't they?

I'll let people come to their own conclusions from all of this. I know from when reading about Nibiru that I found many contradictions between different sources. No doubt the theory will be adapted to the problems I've mentioned here but I don't care. If my goal was to completely debunk the Nibiru theorists then I would have gone straight to the original source and the probable mistranslations of the Sumerian texts. Instead, all I wanted to do was clear up the fundamental flaws in the logic being used as it was annoying the hell out of me. Anyway, thanks for listening.

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hello! Ja sam novi na ovom forumu svidja mi se i imam jedno pitanjce. Za sva ova dogadjanja odnosno prorocanstva oko 2012 tko je "odgovoran" u stvari planet x ili nibiru. Malo sam zbunjen sa time pozdrav Nitai


  
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Bok Nitai!
Dobrodošao na forum.

U biti Planet X = Nibiru su iste ili slične stvari.
Proročanstva odn pretpostavke oko 2012 su dobivene iz Majanskog kalendara koji završava 2012. Znači Maje su bili vrlo precizni oko svog kalendara. Dapače, čak su prije cca 3000 godina uspjeli izračunati kada će naš Sunčev sustav biti u poravnanju sa Galaktičkim centrom (a nisu imali ni teleskope!). Proučavanjem Majanskog kalendara došli su do zaključka da on ne završava bezveze, nego da sigurno mora postojati razlog. Dalje su sve pretpostavke i nagađanja.

A tu se uklapa Nibiru (ili još nazvan Planet X). Nibiru je naziv koji su mu dali Sumerani. Sumerani su opet zanimljivi jer su prva civilizacija koja je imala razvijenu kulturu, škole, monetarni sustav, matematiku, pismo itd. Planet X je naziv koji su znanstvenici dali hipotetskom desetom planetu u sunčevom sustavu (Pluton je 9.planet). (Neki) astronomi vjeruju da u našem sunčevom sustavu postoji još jedan planet to je taj Planet X. Sumerani su također izbrojali sve planete u našem sučevom sustavu, uključujući i Pluton koji je tako mali da smo morali imati super velike teleskope da bi ga otkrili (mislim da je otkriven prije cca 30 godina). Između ostaloga, prema Sumeranima u našem sunčevom sustavu postoji 10 planeta, a zadnji (deseti) je Nibiru.

* Odnedavno Pluton se više ne ubraja u planete sunčevog sustava. Reference

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